So here is the story, in a nutshell:
Very young girl, great attitude about her birth, single mama, dad not in the picture. At first asked me to be her birth attendant but I wasn't ready to take that on, she ended up with the local midwives who took her on after a while because they were too busy to take her on at first (hence her approaching me). She still wanted me to be involved at her birth. I came and did prenatals with her a few times, I dropped off my homeopathic kit when I was going to be away for a while, called, checked in on her, got her lists, helped her prepare, etc etc etc.
The birth comes, she wanted me there, I cancelled work, it ended up being a 2 day birth which ended very happily and beautifully...
And now.... I am kicking myself for not asking for something for being a helper because a) I tend to be shy when it comes to asking for money and b) I make the foolish assumption that people view doulas and birth assistance as people who WORK and therefore need to be compensated!! Instead, it cost me to go to the birth, and truthfully, I have been to and will go to many births. I also did not talk to her about compensation beforehand because once she got on with the midwives it never came up in conversation... the closer she got to the birth the more little things needed to be mentioned when we spoke the more it slipped my mind.
But truthfully, I busted ass for her and really assumed that she would have recognized that and offered me something. SOMETHING!! At this point it seems to be more of a gesture of appreciation rather than true compensation for the amount of time prenatals, the birth, and postpartums consume.
Is it too late for me to bring this up?
Should I just let it go?
Chalk this up as a 'freebie' for a single mom?
I need some advice... because I'm a little choked. I feel unappreciated, I feel like i haven't been honoured for all that I gave.
Very young girl, great attitude about her birth, single mama, dad not in the picture. At first asked me to be her birth attendant but I wasn't ready to take that on, she ended up with the local midwives who took her on after a while because they were too busy to take her on at first (hence her approaching me). She still wanted me to be involved at her birth. I came and did prenatals with her a few times, I dropped off my homeopathic kit when I was going to be away for a while, called, checked in on her, got her lists, helped her prepare, etc etc etc.
The birth comes, she wanted me there, I cancelled work, it ended up being a 2 day birth which ended very happily and beautifully...
And now.... I am kicking myself for not asking for something for being a helper because a) I tend to be shy when it comes to asking for money and b) I make the foolish assumption that people view doulas and birth assistance as people who WORK and therefore need to be compensated!! Instead, it cost me to go to the birth, and truthfully, I have been to and will go to many births. I also did not talk to her about compensation beforehand because once she got on with the midwives it never came up in conversation... the closer she got to the birth the more little things needed to be mentioned when we spoke the more it slipped my mind.
But truthfully, I busted ass for her and really assumed that she would have recognized that and offered me something. SOMETHING!! At this point it seems to be more of a gesture of appreciation rather than true compensation for the amount of time prenatals, the birth, and postpartums consume.
Is it too late for me to bring this up?
Should I just let it go?
Chalk this up as a 'freebie' for a single mom?
I need some advice... because I'm a little choked. I feel unappreciated, I feel like i haven't been honoured for all that I gave.
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Re: etiquette with compensation
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 7:34 PMwhew...this is a hardone.
where I live, the primary care clinic has a program providing volunteer labor supportt o women who can't afford doulas, and it;s eally good...I used to work with them.you aren't a hospital employee so you get to be there for the woman the way a private doula wold...buty ou KNOW you are volunteering.
sounds like a communication breakdown. the mother should have been clear with yo in saying either,"I can;tafford to pay someone, and I wonder to what extent you can volunteer" or" I can only afford to pay so much especially if I'm hiring a midwife separately;will this work for you?"
and you should l have said,"I need to take time off work after so many hours so is there a way you can pay me?"or" I can volunteer up to a point but I willneed to arrange backups o if I get called back to work someone can take over for me?"
it spunds tomelike there was nomeeting of theminds on this, and sending a bill or the verbal equivalent will result in some hurt feeling sallaround.
MAYBE one way to approach iti to send her a closure card,saying, "it was really great being able to share a beautiful birth experience with you and your family wishing you the best for a wonderful family life together" you will be modeling appreciation,and it's possible she will respond i n kind.
my guess is she doesn't have much money. in an ideal world,she would have made what she could and could not afford at the outset, and you could have made an informed choice about what you could and could not offer her. she's probably not unappreciative so much as overwhelmed by everything before her now...rigors of being a younger single mother,any feelings about the absent father,bills to pay,lack of sleep,all that.
experience has taught me that people are really different in recognizing other people's efforts. I have friends who wouldn;'t dream of going to someone's house for dinner without bringing (a dessert,loaf of bread, bottle of wine,vegetarian dish if they are themselves vegetarian,just something!)or doing the dishes,and know others who seem to be placing more and more requests that border on demands on people. usually this is a maturity thing.
it may be that all you can get from your young mother is a "thank yo..it was beautiful!"or maybe she does a craft or a service she would like to offer as a closure gift too
it just sounds like you need to be clear with YOURSELF first as to whether you need to be compensated and in what way, and discuss this with anyone who approaches you about assisting at a birth.
I decided not to try to make my livng off of birth work partly because of this exact issue. I was also in the position of barely affording the midwives I hired when my baby was born at home,and when my good friend who did doula work was sort of hustling a birth with me (she said she"never gets to the home births) I told her I was grateful for her companionship but honestly didn't feel I could afford to pay her doula fees too.she was there,for free, as my friend and main support person. it could have led to trouble if we hadn't been straight with each other about it. we've had other communication issues over the twenty or so years we've known each other,but this one wasn't a problem.
different kind of complications whenit'ssomeonewithwhomyoudon't ahve that prior relationship...sounds likeleqrning stuff allaround.
peace,judith
with someone you
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Re: etiquette with compensation
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 8:59 PMi think this is an issue for many of us doulas starting out. for me, it is coming to the realisation that what i have to offer the pregnant/labouring/new to mothering woman is valuable. i am willing to bet that pretty much every doula goes through this process! personally, i would chalk this one up to, like judith said, a communication breakdown. i probabally would not persue the issue, knowing what it is like being a young and broke new mom, that is just one more thing for her to worry about. however, i would do my best to avoid this happening in the future, by discussing payment, reimbursement of costs incurred by myself, or the bartering thing, before the birth or giving any services to the mother other than the initial meet and greet. i think its awesome that you already feel the worth of your time and knowledge!!! -
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Re: etiquette with compensation
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 5:20 AMyeah lack of defining lines frst can bring you in some murky waters.. u should bring hte topic and also suggest a barter if she has no money... -
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Re: etiquette with compensation
Tue, May 27, 2008 - 10:43 PMIt sounds like you gave a lot of yourself, and I'm sure she really appreciated your presence and support.
I agree that yes, in the future, you should have a conversation about $ on the first meeting.
Also, I plan on not charging my services for the first 4 births that I attend. I will consider it a trade- the woman giving me birth experience, and I giving her birth support. After 4 births, I would feel more confident to start charging money.
Now that you've learned a lesson, don't be afraid to assert yourself next time!
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Re: etiquette with compensation
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 8:25 AMThat's great advice,
And I did definitely not charge for dozens and dozens of births I did at first...
But at this point, I've been to well over 100!
That's also why I feel worthy of gaining abundance at this point. The women and babes gain so much more from my knowledge, at this point.
I've been through so much of what the groundwork involves.
But I always love it, no matter what!!
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